Saturday, August 30, 2008

I beg your Silence

Prologue




I was on the verge of posting a new blog sometime this week, I did manage to come up with the rough draft for my next post, however certain events have spurred me to push my new post a little further, and squeeze this forgettable piece of writing. Read On




My mom was rather surprised to see me awake @ 8 AM this morning (30th August), no wonder it was the weekend; I was supposed to catch up with the most awaited movie for a long time now; ROCK ON. Some of you might ask me, how I could even think of watching a Saturday morning show, for which I have no answer.


May be i should serioulsy think it is worth wasting your precious saturday morning time, in a multiplexer with people around you behaving the way they would in their own bedroom, loud and boisterous chatting, passing comments (the ones that don’t even evoke laughter) hooting/screaming at the worst appropriate time.



Before I start sounding like a grumpy senior citizen who has got a problem with everything that youngsters do, let me clarify stance on this, for people who know me personally, well I am not somebody who would let go any opportunity of having fun, irrespective of where I am. However I am seriously perturbed with people who fail to realize the fact that, having bought the tickets for a show alongside hundred other people doesn’t make you the owner of it. You have every right to enjoy the movie, but not at the expense of the rest of the crowd, who are entitled to have their fair share of fun.


You are well within your rights to chat up with your friends, I mean that’s the whole idea of watching a movie with your friends/family. I fail to understand why people forget the concept of whispering, while they remember Giggling (for no reason).


Not only are the silent onlookers irritated to the core, but also are helpless as they do not want to further add to the existing chaos, not to forget those rare specimens like me, who do stand up and ask people to shut up, only after making sure that we outnumber or out-power the idiots.


It is all about the timing and the movie, I have most certainly do not have problem with people doing all of that in a YashRaj or Karan Johar entertainer, or for that matter a RGV horror-turned-comic like Phoonk (Let me not get started again). But imagine doing it in a house full show during a emotional scene outbreak or a serious conversation. Firstly you giggle away to glory and secondly you turn to you friend next to you saying “What did he say ? Kya huva ? Kya huva ”. God Dammit you are in a movie hall, which doesn’t have the luxury of pause/rewind/play.


My outburst is incomplete without a take on cell fone users with annoying ringtones, Imagine a Sathiya or Reshammiya ringtone played in the movie hall is the most unromantic and annoying thing.


Not to forget people who go on and on and on with their ridiculously lame conversations on the weather outside, the recipe for tonight’s dinner, bitching bosses. I fail to understand who is the bigger idiot out of the two, the on the phone in the theater or the one outside.


For people who still disagree with me, well may be you should be asking questions to yourself, if all the chatting, giggling, hooting is all worth it especially after investing couple of hundred bucks. It may not be about the money, but its about the value of money.


I do respect people who use SMS, but I am still not convinced when I see peoples faces lit up in blue, trying to find something intresting in a 2 inch screen, when you have slightly bigger one right infront of you. I do realize the importance of cell phone during emergencies, but if you were anticipating something importance, you shouldn’t have been in the theater at the first place.


I am certainly not here to list down Movie Hall Etiquettes, the problem has never been about awareness, it has always been about arrogance. Arrogance in the name of the great Indian democracy. I am just hoping that theaters owners would crack the whip, by introducing something or the other to bring back the whole joy of movie watching.


For a change we can try.


1) Mobile Phone Jammers (Urgent calls is no excuse. In case of emergency try reaching the Theater HelpDesk)


2) Bouncers – Its high time we introduce those terrorizing species with close to human resemblance. (for a change female bouncers would make a lot of sense ;)


Probably something more practical Idea would be to sponsor popcorn to those chatterboxes to keep them busy munching on something edible, rather our brains. (I tried it, and it works)


PS: The opinions of this blog reflect the views of the author over a period of time, It has nothing to do with a particular incident or an individual. Any resemblance of any sort is purely unintentional, but that doesn’t mean it is not aimed at you.


Extension to the Post. (posted on Sept 1st)



I always thought that the world has run short out of critics, but they proved me wrong, I managed to wake up most of them with my last post. Seeing the overwhelming reactions ;) No wonder I decided to extend my post.



I must admit that i haven't expected this kind of response, not that i was hoping people to sing in chorus with me and my opinions, however I seriously fail to understand a few things here. The most interesting observation out of this, is the fact that, most of us do read between the lines, we only manage to see what we want to see/read. Its surprising that most of the people taking a shot at the concept of cell Phone jammers concept, but failing to acknowledge the fact that conversations/ringtones were annoying. May be there is small guilt that pricks people from doing it. I am forced to believe that the word “Timing” in my post might have been invisible to most people.




What is even irritating is, people accusing me of having grown too old or acting grumpy on one hand, and failing to relate to the humour expressed in the post. Come On guys....Lady Bouncers is got to be a joke, which seriously puts me in a doubt on who is 25 and who is 55.



Also the fact that on most occasions, the trend is set by the first few people who comment, (no I am not accusing the rest of them getting swayed), Not the opinions but the tone/mood is set buy the early birds, who could have taken the path of humour but took the serious one, which now i feel was the right one.



(Look at the comment of one of the person who disagreed to my post in public and said this in private)


Anonymous: haha ... Honestly I know what its like

One b****h sitting behind us narrated the whole bloody story to her BF who came in 40 mins late to this movie we saw a while back. 20 min of constant, non-stop yapping


The most disappointing thing of all has to be the personal accusations(even from people who knew me from close quarters), of showing off, my stupid principles, trying to be diplomatic, and all the over-reaction, asking me what to google and what not too, taking things too personal which was absolutely unnecessary. As someone proposed an idea of adding disclaimer to each comment, May be I should add a disclaimer after each sentence.


I still do not regret posting something like this, you won't agree to this until it happens to you :p



25 comments:

Anonymous said...

WOW..hehehe now we know why u were so damn silent and pissed off at the lunch after the movie was done....ha..i have heard u say all this in bits and peices in our chats.nice to read them together in ur blog.ok..i better pass on this link to the people it is "aimed" at..;) ...u better get used to all this commotion and noise around u in theatres re...we have a list of movies to go!!

Sanny said...

Can you remember college days where we use to clap and shout and yell ???? no i guess !!! here the entire hall use to get disturbed not just the ones sitting beside or in front??

U do sound like an old grumpy senior citizen for sure... !!!!

what makes you the think ppl should come to movie... fold their hands and stare at the screen and have the same expression whether its a romantic, tragedy, sentiment or whatever emotion it might be... and then send sms to ppl on the review of how the movie was actor performance ??? and give a rating to it ?? or rather observe how ppl are behaving for each scene in the hall !

This is India ! movies are for entertainment and entertainment only ... People come to movies to have some fun in what ever way they feel like! Critics like you can buy a dvd once it is released sit in a room and then write a blog on it or rate the actor's performance... or just go to the premiers if u r that good at watching a movie.

How lame can you get by asking jammers and bouncers ?? bouncers of all .. what is this a school or a conf room where u r ask to sit and watch the ppt without making noise and later you would be asked questions on how the ppt was and useful to you ?????

if the dialogue wasnt heard ...there could be hundreds of reasons.. if u know u tell ..if u dont u shut up and watch .. as simple as it ... u dont blog on it to show off ur writing skills and trying to change the world !

Get on with it .. dont be an Idiot and get insulted for nothing!

Sanny said...

Road to Stupidity and a lame world of rules !

You are 25 not 55 !

Tarun Chandel said...

If you are going to watch movies of RGV and YashRaj what else you expect? People pay huge amount for nothing movies so they have to switch on to other mode of fun (annoying people like you). I think your post just got them the fun that is worth more than the ticket of such stupid movies.

And I agree with other comments, you are not getting any younger or should I say not 18 anymore :)

Stop watching movies so seriously, the effect is showing on your blog (the clarification at the end)

Tarun

Unknown said...

@Nithya

Firstly this post is not aimed @ anyone, secondly I am wise enough to realize that I cannot run away from this.

@Sanny

I have neither asked you, nor anyone else to change, What i do inside the hall is simply immaterial (as long as its bothering anyone else). I blogged just because i felt like, I seriously do not understand your "over-reaction".

Call it school or conference hall, The talk of Jammers in theaters is already going on. Try googling. The Bouncers is more of a humour, (sadly didnt work)

Thanks for the enlighten abt Indian Cinema.I also did mention that I have nothing against all this, Its just that the timing of most people is so terrible.

You are entitled to have an opinion of yours and disagree to mine. This blog is about opinions and not people, my humble request is to refrain from personally attacking someone. There was absolutely no need for you to comment on my road to whatever and my idea of showing off my writing skills. I am not stupid enuff to make an attempt at changing this world.

@Tarun

I guess you have missed my who point there (ref: paragraph 8), I was very clear when I said, you are entitled to do whatever you want in a YashRaj Movie, I was talking about the timing of doing it.

Firstly you pay huge amounts for nothing movies, and then get in and spoil the fun for others, who are there for some peace or a few hours of solace. And then and top if it you defend yourself.

You are perfectly entitled to agree or disagree to what I say.

As far as the age factor is concerned, it’s just relative and different perspectives; People accuse me of being a little too over-matured for my age, I can ask them to Grow up (nothing personal)

Thanks a lot for the comments :)

Tarun Chandel said...

Oh # you are killing me (ROFLOL) "spoil the fun for others, who are there for some peace or a few hours of solace"
You are looking for solace in a cinema hall, man you are in a wrong place.

Tarun Chandel said...

Now that I read your comments again, it seems that I may accidentally and unintentionally be taking side of someone you post was directed at. If that is the case then I should also issue a disclaimer (keeping in with the trend of your post): I am not taking any side I was just reading this post in light humor.

Tarun

Sanny said...

good one Tarun.. guess we should post a disclaimer for each comment we make on his post as he does in posts.. accuse bring up the topic and finally be diplomatic and say it wasn't intended !

Sanny said...

"What i do inside the hall is simply immaterial " bothering someone as you add in brackets and "over -reaction" you call it..hmmm guess u r hitting ur own foot with ur comments now...I didnt post it on my blog to get opinions ?? what do we call this over awareness ??

googling of Jammers on movie hall.. guess we have better things to google on... rather research on how to keep ppl silent in the hall and in which ways and then go on publishing.

My humble request is delete the stupid post of urs... whats the need for you write such post and hear all this ??? what need got to write on this? what was the need to write some conversation in hall on ur blog and call ppl Idiots and what need was it suggest ppl to buy popcorn's to keep the chatterboxes silent? it worked as in how i wonder ?????

You are stupid enough to google abt ways to silent the crowd and teach etiquette of watching the movie. i aint refraining anything here this is my opinion and guess u wanted this and not the ppl (hope u fall in people category) .. so take it !!!!

over-matured ?? grow up ?? dude... wake up ! This was a childish act

Sanny said...

Make this post public so that the so called public/people get to see the opinions of the readers as well not just hit their head after reading and beg for some respect and fail to comment if they want express the so called opinion !!!!

Unknown said...

@Tarun & Vinay

There is really no point on dragging this along, I repeat you don't have to agree to my opinions. If i didnt care for your opinions, I would have deleted them by now.

All I mean to say is you cant change me, and I cant change this world.


@Tarun
It was never about taking sides.

@Vinay
I haven't asked you to follow my blog religiously, I respect you opinions, (although i dont agree with them). I hope you respect mine.

As far as the Post is concerned, i am not taking it off. (its getting some good hits - literally)

Whether it was a Childish/Immature/Overmatured act....I am not debating any more. The day i feel the post was stupid i would remove it off here.

Akbar Khan said...

Well you know what, I think I agree with sanny and tarun. Next time, we should all start chatting around....Whats the point of not chatting when the movie hall is one big social place, with people of so many backgrounds. get to know one another....exchange views ranging from personal home matters to matters troubling india....

and once no one listening to the dialogues any more, be it old and grumpy people like me, or some young and cheerful (chatterful) people, we reintroduce the slient movie era....

i swear i will never ask people in movie halls to sut up again, specially in gurgaon....never knew there were so many supporters of the great indian chatter challenge part 1...

Anonymous said...

Dude...u have really grown old... or was it just that you made so much of effort (get up early on weekend) to watch this movie...

dude bottom line we go to watch movie is for fun so if you cann't stop it ..join them.

Thou i would agree sometimes it could be annoying.

Next time give me a ring from the hall if you feel like i won't mind listening to you.... on the contrary jamming the phones will mean I won't go for a movie rather watch it at home......and bouncers come on harsha m not gone pay extra bucks for them niether will u already inflation is F**king blasting of the roof....

Cheers

~~ DaNNy ~~ said...

Going overboard is an understatement ...

You went way-way past all logical limits because of the Bouncers (female or male) & the Jammers 'thing'.

One question ... "I thought you were a cricket fan ... Ever been a cricket game? Think".

If Sachin were you; he'd complain that a 'Saathiya' ringtone combined with the Nokia signature tune, distracted him and Shoaib knocked his bails off. Or Jonty Rhodes would drop a catch because someone in the crowd said "Kya Huva?"


So according to you ... "A bouncer (female) should have beaten me to pieces because I managed to yawn while seeing AAG".

~D@NNy

Anonymous said...

Harsha... One thing I can say We are INDIANS and not BRITISH, we tend to enjoy every small things in life....

Pankaj K Jha said...

I am a bit confused as to how should i respond. there are times when i do feel irritated i am hooked to the movie and people other than me talk on mobile bring infants to theatres etc etc but half of the time i am the one who initiates a discussion and keep the discussion alive througout the movie reasons are many for that...i would blame the film makers for not making something worth paying attention to.. second the argument which i use This is a public theater there are people other than you ...if you want silence watch on DVD at your home....I will keep on doing this...do what you want to do....to hell with your Etiquette's and mannerism.......

Tarun Chandel said...

Never thought that this discussion would come this far. But let's look at focus on some differences between an Indian Movie and Hollywood one also between between watching a DVD and viewing a cinema. First the Bollywood movies are bit longer than Hollywood ones and we all agree that it is difficult to sit quietly for that long (no matter how interesting or boring the movie is). Secondly, while watching movie on a DVD the control is with us and we do all the things while watching a movie, I even chat while watching movie and in college we used to make presentations while watching movies. So going by that standard people do behave much better while in cinemas. There is another big difference between Indians and others is that we are more flamboyantly expressive of our emotions (look at all the comments here) remember how English watch their cricket matches and what noise we create at our stadiums (but that makes it fun). Then there is another theory that most of Indians do not have respect for collective gains, that's why you see a lot of scribblings on the old monuments, you will notice the graffiti on public transport, you will notice people cutting you off at traffic intersection (just to create more chaos), you will notice people spitting all over the places, people peeing at all the corners & wall, you will notice people pushing you at your office coffee wending machine, people using speaker phone while rest are trying to work, the list can go on ... but there is only one thing I can change and that is me (Mahatma Gandhi realized it bay back) and that is all that matters.

Tarun

Unknown said...

@Akbar

I am not sure if I should be rejoicing for finding my sole supporter, if we both should be mourning for being called Grumpy. :D The great Indian Chatter challenge Indeed !!


@Pradeep Verma

Lets not talk abt ages, Biological/Mental/Intellectual ages? I am confused seriously !!
I knew this post is definitely heading where it shouldn’t be, but thanks to you for taking it one step further away,by linking it to inflation :D

@Dhananjay

I may have surely gone overboard, and surpassed the logical limitations, however your Cricket example sucks more than my post, seriously dude…..We were talking abt the audience battling it out, and you managed to bring in the performers too. (another example of the post heading where it shouldn’t be heading). Surprising to see this analogy coming from someone, who has never watched/played cricket to my knowledge.

I am happy, finally someone has managed to see the lighter side of he female bouncer ;)

@Pankaj Jha
Appreciate your confession, I surely agree to your point “blame the film makers for not making something worth paying attention to”; but is your version and my version of “something worth paying attention to” the same ?

Dude what mannerisms or etiquettes are you talking about ? I never mentioned any. (perfect example of reading between the lines)

@Shiva

I agree with you, we enjoy small things in life, small things in life like a puff of cigar, a tequila shot, a wink at someone, a smile on someones face, pranks on friends. But I certainly do no approve of an annoying ringtone played in a theater as one of them.


@Tarun

Haha, this sounds more of a thread/discussion forum rather than a blog, may be I should congratulate myself for making that possible, I perfectly agree with you abt the DVD and theatrical watches, that’s one way I classify movies. May be flamboyance is the correct word, I called it arrogance to the ire of most people here.

Collective gains, or the lack of it - is attributed our diversified cultures, may that’s a good topic to blog on. I surely have innovative (read stupid) ways to curb a few things you mentioned. I am already thinking about my next post. You are right about the “Changing oneself concept”, I completely believe in it, and I have stopped doing it way back…My post never had any “To Do’s” or “Not to Do’s” or a list of etiquettes. Unfortunately people have let their imagination run too vague (by reading between the lines)

Santosh N said...

The joker claim that "the only sensible way to live in this world is without rules!" I am not going along with him, but in general, the mentality of the people go along with his thoughts. By the way, just for clarification, the line is from the movie 'The dark Knight'.

Two things striked my mind after reading your prolongated blog! 1. Its common that people speak! Indians are known to be the speakers. We cant live in silence. If you really want to make an Indian silent, you need to make sure that what ever is happening, it should definitely grip the spectators.
The second though is just the continuation, where in the film you are talking about here is routine flick (probably) or is not really connecting to the audience.

Well, Simple things first! Imagine that you are in a presentation. If the presenter is dry or definitely is not holding you, then you either will start your conversation with your fellow man or just start with your beautiful yawn. Ofcourse, on the contrary, if you really are interested in the presentation, you would never ever bother to care if the next person is disturbing you and your concentration is completely on the interesting stuff happening!

The only "possible alternative" for such a scenario, would be simply to make sure that the movie is gripping and making the audience feel the movie and not get disturbed by anyone. Ofcourse its difficult, but there comes the perfection!

You want me to name some movies where this perfection came from?

Nurav said...

dude

wtf...
luks like I missed the Rocket to mars!

am not even gonna get into wat others have sed (although i wud hav loved to do tht).

Reading ur blog from my laptop... the only thing that looks to have matured is my frikking laptop screen dude!

cz u r still the same -> EXCITED
defined as: "Situation when an electron is supplied with enough energy to rise to another state"
- only in this case, the state is ANDHRA PRADESH :P

see some of the stuff u sed is, well, right. but its all relative.
in India, ppl are wat tarun n all have defined them as. n they will probably never change. but then u need not worry, cz u wont change either! so pls carry on blogging and giving us more reasons to ...well... u know ;)

humare yaha dilli mein some ppl take crap with a doze of gandhigiri and sometimes, they just 'extract' the COLLAR of the miscreatns shirt.

this ingenious method of movie watching keeps ppl on their toes. So they do some ungli... but know tht they cant continue for long. else there will be an episode on their limbs on SANSANI or VARDAAT on news channels.

PS: nice to see that the pre-sales guy in u did seize the opportunity to have a helpdesk in all theatres. how u gonna connect them? nortel?
cisco?
how bout lobo?

RFC

cheekymonk said...

harsha.. excellent thread! people have the tendency to talk of maturity as age.. you are not old.. you are matured.. socially. its sad that things are like that in our society..

what makes me even more sadder is, young guys standing first in line of cynical comments.. that too against another youngster who expresses what he would love to see from his fellow beings, with social maturity!!

but it doesn't surprise me at all, when i remember that people threw stones at Socrates. a well expressed blog and i completely agree with you! even the female bouncers part.. :p

ilikeya2021 said...

Interesting post and interesting comments all the more! I wouldn't like to comment on what others have to say. All I have to say is we do lack a lot of etiquette be it in cinema halls or loos (look at the pathetic loos in Prasad's). Whats even sadder is there are very few people who follow etiquette religiously. And the saddest part is we defending our poor etiquette saying "we are Indians and we are used to such things" etc etc. I don't mind people talking in theater to the person next to him/her as long as the decibel levels are really low. But people chit-chatting on phones and ring tones playing aloud is annoying. You definitely have to talk louder on phone when inside a theater so that person on the other side of the conversation has to hear you. Best thing is to get out of the theater and enjoy talking to the person you cannot do without even for 2.5-3 hrs!Good Post with good humor! Keep writing!

Unknown said...

Hey Harsha,

Nice blogs and the current one is good but i dont really agree to the approach you have taken.

Most of you blogs talk abt things not right in our system, Theaters are not silent while we watch movies etc......

Now tell me One single time when u switched off your mobile the moment u entered the movie hall, What Have you done to hange this entire system.
We always talk about the people, systems not being right.

I would say ITS US....... Just us.
We Change People s attiude would change for us........

But one thing which is the best about your blogs is your flow of your thoughts. Its synchorinised well with the right words and sense of humor.

Proud of u chotu

Anonymous said...

Arrogance in the name of the great Indian democracy.

PunchLine dude. Excellent

Anonymous said...

Dude don't get carried away by comments from people who never understand the word DECORUM. yes people most of the times miss basic discipline.

No doubt.

I saw a comment where someone was asking about college days. Fair, we still waive off the mistakes made by students, however what about the highly educated and highly paid b**t**ds? Why are they not maintaining any decorum?

Do these people behave the same way in USA or UK??? Nope

You are very right in saying "Arrogance in the name of the great Indian democracy."

Also you are right in saying it pricks those who are the way you described. So no doubt they keep babbling.

Keep up your good work. Appreciate it.

Its better to air out rather to fade out.

Quote for now (until i change it)

"9 out of 10 times I stick to what I say & believe purely out of conviction, sometimes its the ego that takes over" -Harsha